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Best Laid Plans

Finite Lives and Infinite Goals with Oliver Burkeman

Best Laid Plans

Sarah Hart-Unger

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Self-improvement, Education

4.8756 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode, Oliver Burkeman joins Sarah to discuss his popular and fascinating book, 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals. Sarah delves into how Oliver plans, how he went from self-help critic to personal development authors, and how to reconcile the tension between knowing life is finite (and accepting the inevitability that one cannot do everything!) and still wanting to set goals and do a lot, or even cram in as much as possible in the time we have left. Oliver Burkeman's website: https://www.oliverburkeman.com Susan Piver blog post he references: https://openheartproject.com/getting-stuff-done-by-not-being-mean-to-yourself/ Best Laid Plans Video 2023 Planner Stack video: https://www.youtube.com/@BestLaidPlansVideo Episode Sponsors: Plan to Eat: Meal planning with your own favorite recipes. Best Laid Plans listeners can get a 25% discount on a yearly subscription by signing up for a free trial at plantoeat.com/plans Organize 365: To learn more about Lisa Woodruff’s work and her amazing offerings, check out organize365.com, or go to organize365.com/minicourse for a free 7 days minicourse on getting yourself organized! My Life in a Book: A meaningful keepsake gift, perfect for your loved ones for the holidays. To save $10 off your first purchase, visit mylifeinabook.com and use discount code PLANS135. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to best laid plans.

0:11.3

This is your host, Sarah Hart Unger, and this is the podcast where we talk to all things planning and planning adjacent.

0:17.3

I have a very exciting interview episode for you today.

0:30.5

I love Oliver Berkman's work and was very excited to have him on Best of Both World podcasts, an interview that Laura, my co-hosted.

0:36.7

And so I ended up in some sort of email conversation with him. It was one of those things where he wrote a newsletter.

0:37.8

And I just figured, hey, I'll just reply. I mean, I kind of have a connection with him because he's been on

0:41.6

the other podcast. And he wrote back and then I said, I think we need to discuss this on best

0:45.5

laid plans. And he agreed to come on. So so happy and excited to welcome Oliver Berkman today.

0:51.8

But before we get to our conversation, I just wanted to follow up.

0:55.0

I did end up creating a video version of my 2023 planner stack. And so you can find that on

1:02.3

YouTube. Search for Best Laid Plans video. And that's my actual handle at Best Laid Plans video.

1:09.8

Unfortunately, Best Laid Plans was taken probably a long time ago.

1:13.3

And I'll also link that video at the end of today's show notes.

1:16.3

So you can find it that way as well.

1:18.3

If you'd love to have a visual representation of what my stack looks like, this will

1:22.4

give you an idea.

1:23.5

It is not a shiny and professionally produced video.

1:30.3

But the feedback I've gotten so far is that they're able to see what they wanted to see. So I guess that's kind of the whole point.

1:34.7

So I hope you enjoy that. And if you have other specific things you'd like me to do videos on,

1:39.6

I guess I know how to do that now. So I'd be open to making some more. So let me know. All right, well,

1:45.7

next, we are going to go into our interview and I'm going to be back with a few words after the

1:51.7

interview. I hope you enjoy it. I always learn a lot, reading Oliver Berkman's articles,

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