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The Anxious Achiever

Finding Your “Why” and Rooting Leadership in Healing

The Anxious Achiever

Morra Aarons-Mele

Mental Health, Management, Careers, Health & Fitness, Business

4.7600 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Five years ago, Dr. Maggie Chery tragically lost both of her parents to the Covid 19 pandemic, just weeks apart. It was a trauma that still affects her today, but it shifted the course of her life’s work as well. Today Maggie is a program manager at Google, and Chief Operating Officer at Not Just a Black Body. Her personal loss has drastically shifted how she works - both in terms of her leadership philosophy, and in terms of how she approaches creating better health equity outcomes around the globe, including those of mental health.

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0:00.0

This week, how one leader's tragedy helped her put people at the center of her work.

0:09.9

I'm Maura Erin's Mealy, and this is the anxious achiever, the show that looks at the intersection of mental health, leadership, and work, and asks how can we do better?

0:29.6

Grief, equity, and leadership. These are three important and weighty concepts, and they may not

0:36.9

initially seem like they have much to do with each other.

0:40.4

Today's guest is Dr. Magdala Cherry, Maggie Cherry. She's a physician and a health advocate who works

0:47.3

in product development at Google, and she's the chief operating officer at not just a black

0:52.9

body. And I really wanted to talk to Maggie and ask her to share her story.

1:00.0

It's one that involves great personal loss, loss that came on very quickly.

1:05.0

But in dealing with that grief, Dr. Cherry also recalibrated her professional career and she really dug in deep to find her

1:14.1

why. That trauma and loss informs her work today. And so she'll share why she now works so

1:21.2

diligently to improve public health, at a tough time for public health, and health equity around the

1:26.9

globe.

1:31.9

It's a life she may not have previously envisioned for herself, and we'll hear why.

1:39.1

Dr. Cherry's personal tragedy was that she lost both parents during the COVID-19 pandemic,

1:40.6

just weeks apart.

1:46.3

And we spoke right around the five-year anniversary of that pandemic, a big time of reflection for her.

1:53.5

I think I'll share with a story that recently happened when I was traveling. I often

1:58.8

reference myself as a vulnerable storyteller. And so just had a work

2:03.0

trip my first international work presentation outside the country, which is a big milestone,

2:08.4

and went with a work colleague and was in Scotland and did that on Monday, Tuesday, and I was on a

2:13.9

flight going to another country. I'm also working, but just it finally hit me

2:19.1

that I gave a presentation, what was happening. And I'm all the plane and I just start bawling,

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