Hey, it's Rachel Cook, your modern mentor.

I'm the founder of Lead Above Noise.

We work with leaders and teams to build capability and confidence, to lead through change, and to drive their best results while keeping burnout at bay.

And we'd love to partner with your team.

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So today, friends, you are in for a super treat because today I get to share with you a conversation I've dreamed of having for quite some

time. And, well, serendipity was on my side and I got to meet the illustrious, wise, and delightful

AJ Jacobs. If you're not familiar with

AJ, he's been someone I've followed and admired for at least a decade. He is, in my very humble

opinion, the master of all things curious and quirky and wise. So much so, he's made a career

out of these traits. And I just wanted to learn more about how he's managed to do so.

How he's had the courage to follow whimsy, how he's been resilient enough to pursue ideas that on the surface did not scream success.

And how we can all infuse more of these ways of being and doing into our everyday work experiences.

We talk about following curiosity,

about being brave and resilient, and so much more. I hope you enjoy. Okay, AJ Jacobs, author,

podcaster, extraordinaire. Welcome to the Modern Mentor podcast. I am so over the moon to have you here today. I am over the moon to be here.

I am a fan. I am a big fan. I love your podcast. And I love it's got these actionable tips that I take

away every time. So I'm feeling stressed. I need to give some actionable tips to the listeners so they can come away and be like,

oh, there are four things I can do. So that's my goal. I'm stating it here.

All right. We have set the bar high. They've got to be actionable. They got to be quick.

They got to be dirty. We're going to make this happen. So AJ, just quick background for the listeners, you and I had the great fortune,

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