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Emergence Magazine Podcast

Finding the Mother Tree – A Conversation with Suzanne Simard

Emergence Magazine Podcast

Emergence Magazine

Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Science

4.7627 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In this archive conversation, forest ecologist Suzanne Simard speaks about her life’s work exploring tree intelligence and relationships, and her most recent research on Mother Trees—the oldest trees in the forest—and their astounding ability to recognize and nourish their own kin. Stepping outside of scientific precepts towards a vernacular that acknowledges connection—“mother,” “children,” “grandfather”—she delves further into the intricate web of relationships that Western systems of knowledge are only beginning to understand, and wonders what lessons these trees can teach us about healing our separation from the Earth.  Read the transcript. Photo by Diana Markosian. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast.

0:03.0

I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show, an executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

0:09.0

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok people in present-day Marin County.

0:16.0

Each week, we feature interviews, stories, poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting

0:23.8

ecology, culture, and spirituality. So much of our thinking of emergence, and indeed,

0:32.7

I believe the wider ecological sphere, has been impacted by the work of forest ecologist Suzanne Samard.

0:39.9

In 1997, she shared a theory termed the wood wide web, which offered a window into the

0:45.6

ways trees communicate with each other through underground networks of micro-risal fungi.

0:51.1

Not only are traces of our work threaded throughout many of our stories,

0:55.0

from our recent multimedia experience breathing with the forest,

0:59.0

to the conversation with Merlin Cheldrake on mycelain landscapes.

1:03.0

Suzanne's ideas have been truly essential in transforming how humans understand the Earth as living and interdependent.

1:12.1

They fundamentally changed our collective perception of trees, the possibility that a forest

1:16.8

could be familial, sentient, and deeply alive-found roots, and offered a pathway for us to

1:23.2

step into a renewed relationship with trees, one of deep attention and care. So this week,

1:31.1

he returns to my conversation with Suzanne from a few years ago, where she speaks about her

1:35.8

life's work and her most recent research on mother trees, the oldest trees in the forest,

1:41.2

and their astounding ability to recognize and nourish their own kin.

1:47.0

Stepping outside the scientific precepts and towards a vernacular that acknowledges connection,

1:52.0

using terms like mother, children, grandfather, she delves further into the intricate web of relationships

2:00.0

that Western systems of knowledge are only beginning to understand.

2:03.6

And wonders what lessons these trees can teach us about healing our separation from the living world.

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