Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast. I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show, an executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok people in present-day Marin County.

Each week, we feature interviews, stories, poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting ecology,

culture, and spirituality. In this week's episode, we returned to my conversation from this time

last year with Aboriginal scholar and author Tyson Young-Caporta.

We met to discuss time.

And right off the bat, Tyson, with the same candor and humor that tempers his books,

points out how the interview's pre-schedule time itself was ignorant of a kind of time beyond the mechanized.

To set up the interview, all we did was click on a little blue square and our digital calendars,

and in doing so, failed to account for the multitude of ways we are in relationship with the

human, the non-human, with the cyclical, and the seasonal. It didn't account for the way time

is always in relation to place.

And so Tyson invites us into an indigenous understanding of place time,

where time is inseparable from the landscape,

which imbues time with meaning and with story.

And he also considers what it would mean to collectively operate from a place of deep time diligence,

in which we feel our obligation to the beings, the landscapes around us, and future generations.

Sharing the ways lore and knowledge are kept within lands and tribes over centuries,

Tyson emphasizes how important it is that story and data and

technology emerge from a place of right relationship if we are to usher in new systems of order

amid the chaos of the current moment.

Tyson, welcome. It's nice to be in conversation with you today.

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