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You're listening to The Nocturnous Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman.

Today we're diving into a topic that many physicians dread malpractice litigation.

Joining us is Dr. Gita Pensa, an emergency medicine physician and expert in the stresses associated with malpractice litigation.

You might recognize her voice from our shame in medicine series, where she shared her

personal 12-year odyssey into litigation in the episode On Trial.

It's a journey that transformed Gita into both an advocate and educator for doctors navigating

the unfamiliar and disorienting world of malpractice law.

It also turned Gita into a storyteller, inspiring her to create a podcast called Doctors and Litigation,

the L word. Through the podcast, Gita brings together stories and interviews from doctors, lawyers,

patients, and more, helping to illuminate the ins and outs of the malpractice system, including

its deep flaws, what to expect when you're going through the process, and more.

Gita and I also discuss a new documentary film that she appears in called A World of Hurt, How Medical Malpractice Fails Everyone.

The film was created by Emmy-nominated physician filmmaker Dr. Mark Brady, alongside medical

students Alex Homer and Vickness Kasturi.

It uses three case studies to paint a portrait of malpractice law and how it impacts both

patients and clinicians.

A quick note, our discussion of the film does include themes of suicide, so please listen with

discretion. In our conversation, Gita shares insights on how physicians can prepare for

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