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It's worth the fight. It's worth the fight to be able to have intimacy with not just your wife, but with your friends.

One of the definitions we have is into me, see, and to be able to feel even around your friends that they know you fully and still love you.

It's not just in marriage. It's in all your close relationships that you wonder, would they really still love me and respect me if they really knew me?

That's Bob Grash and he and his wife Dana join us today on Focus on the Family. I'm John Fuller and before we get started, let me just share this conversation.

We won't be appropriate for younger children, so pop in some earbuds or distract them elsewhere.

And with that, let's turn it over to our host Focus on the Family President Jim Daly.

John, I so appreciated both Dan and Bob yesterday, that vulnerability. It's refreshing. I don't know that we have enough of it in the church to where people can feel comfortable talking about their pain and their journey and where they're at.

I think the early church does describe some of that. Paul himself said that do the things I don't want to do and I don't do the things I should do.

And that's a great indication, a very open indication for us to struggle together in this life to become better.

And certainly that comes out in marriage, my goodness. You want to talk about your exposure.

The person that knows you best is your spouse. And at least I hope so because that's the way it should be.

And sometimes that creates a situation, especially around sexual sin, that is really difficult.

And we talked about that last time and they were so open about it. You know that emotional baggage that you bring in and all of the temptations and sin, especially in that sexual area, can be devastating to a marriage.

And last time we talked about how shame causes us to retreat and hide from others. I think that's very true of men.

And today we're going to continue that discussion about how to find healing in the process. And we have a couple of great guests back with us today.

And Bob and Dan Agress are here. They're the founders of True Girl Ministry, which is now reached between girls.

And Dan is a very popular speaker and a podcast co-host. And she's written the book along with Bob's input of course that captures their incredible journey here.

It's called Happily Even After. Let God redeem your marriage. And we have copies of the book here at the ministry. The link has all the details or give us a call. 800, the letter A in the word family.

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