Hi, Jim Daly here. Today's cultured deeply needs help, but in times like these, the light of Christ can shine even brighter.

So be encouraged to share his light in this broken world. Listen to the refocus with Jim Daly podcast.

Without time limitations, I'll have deep heartfelt discussions with fascinating guests who will encourage you to share God's grace, truth and love.

Check out the podcast at refocuswithjimdaly.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

And when we hit these bumps in the road, we tend to believe the lie. I don't need to tell anybody. Nobody needs to know about this.

That's Satan, isolating you. Do not comply. You need to tell someone. James 516 says, confess your sins one to another and then you will be healed.

Confession to Christ, the only thing that gives us forgiveness, right? That's a supernatural thing that only Jesus can do. His blood on the cross erases the sin and gives us a clean slate.

But they're still healing to work out in our lives and in our relationships from the consequences of that sin. And that healing, according to the book of James, happens in community.

Well, that's Dana Grash and she joins us today on Focus on the Family along with your husband Bob. Thank you for being along with us. I'm John Fuller and your host is Focus President and author Jim Daly.

Here's a crazy thought. When we get married, we most likely bring baggage into the relationship. I think that's the premise of good counseling. And we have to continually work on this and become more like the Lord in which we profess faith toward.

We're going to talk with a couple today and it will be a very honest discussion. I think it's going to be extremely helpful to so many couples. And if you are not struggling with some of the issues we're going to describe today, there's probably somebody in your orbit that is.

So listen in and let's talk about how to make our marriages the healthiest they can be.

Yeah, and parents be advised, we'll cover some topics along the way here that you probably won't want your younger children to be listening to. And Bob and Dana Grash, as I said, are here.

Bob and Dana co-founded the True Girl Ministry and Dana writes and speaks and we're going to hear their story, which is captured in the book happily even after. Let God redeem your marriage.

We've got copies of that book here at the ministry. Click the link in the show notes or give us a call 800 the letter A in the word family.

Bob and Dana, welcome to focus on the family again. Great to have you. Thank you.

What an honor to be back. I mean, it's not an easy subject. Obviously, and people are going to hear this, but your marriage fell toward trouble. And you know, you guys had to fight to keep it together, which I love. Thank you. First of all for doing that.

Let's start with the moment everything came crashing down. What happened?

Well, that was a hard day. I was sitting in our red leather chairs in our living room. I thought Bob was picking me up for a date to the county fair.

And I had a big confession to tell Dana. I had to kind of plan it so it didn't wreck her. I knew I was going to hurt her heart.

And I confessed to her that the battle I was having with pornography and lust was escalating. And that I had...

My only way back to God was going to break her heart. And why did you say that?

...