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the founder of Scott's Cheap's flights.

Scott, thanks for joining us today.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm excited to be here.

And you know, I've been following your path for years.

I feel like we somewhat grew up in the same era of you know people trying to maximize travel

what when did you found Scott's chief flight yeah you know it was it was it was

the flights it was such a very serendipitous story because I was never the type of person who, you know, a budding entrepreneur, somebody who really wanted to found a company. I actually worked for years as a journalist in Washington, D.C. and if you know anything about journalism, it's, you know, that most folks, at least in the political journalism world, don't go into it because it's super, super lucrative.

And so, because, you know, look, I love the work, I really enjoyed it, but I also wanted to

travel.

I was like, okay, I need to figure out a way to thread this needle.

And so there were two essentially prongs that I approached with it.

One was learning really deep diving into the points world, the credit card churning, you know,

how to maximize all that, obviously doing a ton of ton of reading back on the points guys archives and everything.

And then another part of that was really sort of figuring out all the tips and tricks

that I could use to try to get the best fare possible

whenever I was gonna book a flight.

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