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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vander Kim. I'm a mother of four, an author,

journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three, an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger.

I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger on the side.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

Welcome to Best of Both worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term

career goals, we want you to get the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura.

This is episode 132, we think, which is airing in mid-February. Today we are really excited because we

have some great guests.

We have Joel and Matt from How to Money. Long-time listeners know that Sarah and I both

listen to the How to Money podcast. I was a guest on it last spring. And so we've gotten to know,

Joel and Matt over the past year or so.

And we thought it would be awesome to have these two gentlemen on the program.

They're both dads.

They're both doing multiple gigs, their podcast, and their main jobs as well.

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