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Breaking Down Patriarchy

Finale - with Lindsay, Lucy, and Sophie Allebest

Breaking Down Patriarchy

Amy McPhie Allebest

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

On the finale episode of the podcast Amy is joined by her daughters-Lindsay, Lucy, and Sophie-who help reflect on and celebrate the history of this project, some of the most valuable lessons learned along the way, and how the knowledge gathered through this work echoes both forward and backward across generations.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee, All the Best.

0:04.3

In 2020, I recorded the very first episode of Breaking Down Patriarchy, and I started the episode by reading an excerpt from GERDA Learners, The Creation of Patriarchy.

0:15.3

And I'm going to read it again now.

0:18.2

Men and women live on a stage, on which they act out their assigned roles equal in importance.

0:25.2

The play cannot go on without both kinds of performers. Neither of them contributes more or less to the

0:31.1

whole, neither is marginal or dispensable. But the stage set is conceived, painted, defined by men. Men have written the play, have directed

0:41.3

the show, interpreted the meanings of the action. They have assigned themselves the most interesting,

0:46.8

most heroic parts, giving women the supporting roles. As the women become aware of the difference

0:52.5

in the way they fit into the play, they ask for more equality in the role assignments.

0:57.0

They upstage the men at times.

0:59.0

At other times, they pinch hit for a missing male performer.

1:02.0

The women finally, after considerable struggle, win the right of access to equal role assignment.

1:09.0

But first, they must qualify. The terms of their qualifications

1:12.8

are again set by the men. Men are the judges of how women measure up. Men grant or deny admission.

1:19.4

They give preference to docile women and to those who fit their job descriptions accurately.

1:25.1

Men punish, by ridicule, exclusion, or ostracism, any woman who assumes the right

1:30.1

to interpret her own role, or, worst of all sins, the right to rewrite the script. It takes

1:36.7

considerable time for the women to understand that getting equal parts will not make them equal,

1:41.8

as long as the script, the props, the stage setting, and the direction

1:45.3

are firmly held by men. When the women begin to realize that, and cluster together between the

1:51.2

acts, or even during the performance, to discuss what to do about it, this play comes to an end.

1:58.3

For the past five years, I have been studying the social system of patriarchy, which human

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