Hello and welcome to another episode of App Stories.

Today's episode is brought to you by Steam Clock and Clyde.

I'm John Vortes and I've got Federico Vitecci with me. Hey, Federico. Hello, John. How are you? Oh, I'm doing all right. Hey, welcome to a new era of the Apple, the turnus term, we're going to call it. You know, his term as CEO. Kind of. He's not a CEO yet. But he will be on September 1st. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

John, I, I, so I've been thinking about this. We're recording this on the day after this

was announced, which by the way was Monday, April 20th. Also, Max Story's 17th birthday.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday to us.

This was announced late in the evening for me.

In fact, I was watching an Italian sitcom on TV and you started texting me first that

Johnny Shrugi was named Chief Hardware Officer and later that Tim Cook made it

official that he was going to step down as CEO

and John Turus was going to take over come September 1st.

I'll tell you, I feel pretty lucky about the fact that I have already met in person

and talked in person to the current Apple CEO and the future Apple CEO,

and I have pictures with both of them.

So that's pretty nice.

But I don't really...

I see a lot of our peers have plenty of thoughts about this.

I don't really...

This is a weird thing that I think you and I have in common.

I really...

And I always have,

disliked this like sort of self-celebratory things, you know.

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