Hello and welcome to another episode of App Stories.

Today's episode is brought to you by Mercury Weather.

I'm John Voorhez and with me is Federico Vitechi. Hey, Federico. Hello, John. How are you? I'm having a good day. I'm having a really good day. I don't know. How about yourself? What are you up there too over there in row? I'm happy that I finally released Apple Frames for yesterday. I bet you are. We're recording this on Tuesday. So yesterday on Monday of the previous week, since you're listening to this,

um, for yesterday. I bet you are. We're recording this on Tuesday. So yesterday on Monday of the previous week, since you're listening to this, I released Apple Frames for.

We're going to talk about that for the topic that we have in mind today, a topic that in fact

was, anyway, I'm good, John.

All right.

I'm glad you're good.

I'm glad you're good. I'm glad you're good.

But the topic today was inspired by something that you posted on Mastodon for Apple Frames 4,

and I thought that was an interesting angle.

So can you go over what you posted again?

Yeah, it's something that I've been thinking about a lot with some of these AI tools. And I,

after you posted about Apple Frames 4, I said that it was a really good example of the kind of multiplier effect you get when you have somebody who's really knowledgeable about a particular domain and you add

cloud code to the mix because I think that a lot of the conversations and the reason I I put

this out there was that a lot of the conversations I see about AI and agentic tools is that

they're used by people to be lazy or they're used by people who don't know what

they're doing. And the reality is I think that they're most valuable when they're used by the

people who know what they're doing the most. And for in your case, that's creating shortcuts

and dealing with Apple frames because you obviously

have a long history of having brought this shortcut from the very first version in what was like

2018 or something like that right yeah right yeah so like that's like eight years ago and you've

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