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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Fighting Trump's Falsehoods

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

What’s the right way for the media to cover President Trump’s daily public briefings on the coronavirus pandemic? Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and the new co-host Frank Bruni debate whether the president is using journalists as foils, the ways in which his briefings have become a substitute for canceled campaign rallies and how his public pronouncements about the virus have become vectors for misinformation. Then, when everyone in America is socially distancing, how far apart is far enough? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.2

I'm Ross Douthit.

0:02.5

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:04.0

Just kidding.

0:04.8

I'm Frank Bray, your new host.

0:07.0

And this is the argument.

0:13.4

This week, how should the media cover the White House news briefings?

0:18.0

Yeah, you cover it, but you don't air the whole thing live.

0:21.8

Then, learning how much we need to be together,

0:25.1

just when we're told to be a part.

0:27.1

I think we all have to have a certain amount of

0:30.0

tolerance for the reality that you're just going to bump up against the limits.

0:33.5

And finally, a recommendation.

0:38.7

Okay, thank you very much.

0:41.5

Good to be with you all.

0:44.0

We're in a very critical phase of our war against the coronavirus.

0:49.2

It's vital that every American follows our guidelines on the

0:53.2

30 days to slow the spread.

0:55.7

The Daily White House briefings are a new staple these days.

0:59.0

The president shows up regularly and so do members of the coronavirus task force.

1:03.9

It's a sharp turn from about nine months ago

1:06.6

when the president instructed a new White House press secretary

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