Hi, this is Ryan Evans, the editor-in-chief of Warren the Rocks.

In this podcast, you'll hear my conversation with Claude Burube of the U.S. Naval Academy.

I spoke to him about his new novel, Sirens Song, very much worth reading.

I also sat down with General Bob Scales to speak to him about his recent trip to Europe where he spoke to

different military leaders about NATO's ability to fight and deter Russia.

Claude, why don't you tell our listeners a bit about who you are and how you came to become a writer?

Sure, thanks Ryan. I've been teaching at the Naval Academy for 11 years, one of the best jobs I've ever had.

I've been a naval officer, intelligence, served overseas

on the USS Bunker Hill in the Persian Gulf.

I've worked on Capitol Hill for two senators,

worked as a defense contractor for seven years, worked for

Naval Intelligence as a civilian, but my one love was always fiction, especially in the

1980s there was this run of fiction writers.

I mean, everybody mentions Clancy, but I was fond of the Granger series, it's the November

Man series.

There was a movie made by Pierce Bros.

But it was way off of what the November Man series was.

And a book series by Robert B. Parker,

who's one of my favorite Spencer Spencer. You know what the Spencer novels are fantastic and the first one I read the God Wolf manuscript it was the first one in the series. I didn't realize this I'm reading this and it turns out Robert B. Parker was an English professor at Northeastern and I was in grad school at the time in 88, sorry 89.

And I'm reading this book and he's talking about this one particular classroom and the room number in the building. I said, wait a minute.

This is the grad school, this is the grad student's office and that's where I was.

So I think it was 403 Richards. I can't remember.

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