A lot of religions talk about wisdom, but Christianity is the only one that talks about how wisdom took on flesh and dwelt among us.

It could be a really illuminating exercise to read through the Gospels with that lens of how do I see God's wisdom at work in Jesus? We want to be people who are wise.

But ultimately, we want to be wise because we want to reflect the ultimate wisdom of God himself,

Jesus Christ. Matt Harmon serves as professor of New Testament studies at Grace College and Theological Seminary

in Winona Lake, Indiana.

He was previously on staff with crew for eight years and is the author of numerous books,

including The Wisdom of God, Revealed, Reviled, and Reverberated, which is part of Crossway's

short studies and biblical theology series.

Well, Matt, thank you so much for joining me again on the Crossway podcast.

It's great to be back.

So Matt, you open your new book with a quote, never before has there been more knowledge in the world? And I thought about

that statement that you make there and just all of the conversation right now about AI and the

amazing things that these AI tools that are so quickly evolving and developing can do, I mean,

the amount of information and knowledge that is at our fingertips that is

easier to access than ever, more customized than ever to whatever need do we have. I was trying

to fix a plumbing thing at my house the other day, and I just took a picture of it, and I just said,

tell me what I need to do, and it was incredibly helpful and would have taken me a long

time to probably figure out on my own. And so it just, it just feels like we're living in a moment

where that is never, that's so true that never been more, never before has there been more

knowledge available to us. But then you go on to say, never before has there been less

wisdom in the world? So to start us off,

Matt, how would you define those two words? What is wisdom versus knowledge? Yeah, so knowledge,

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