When is the best time to start preparing for our defense from those pesky little insects

that bother us or sometimes could bring harm to us while we're visiting the outdoors?

Let's find out.

They had out. Today I'd like to welcome back our friend from Sawyer, Katie Houston.

Katie is the community manager with Sawyer and is always able to give us such great insight

and information about the Sawyer products.

Katie, welcome back to Papa Bear Hikes.

Thank you. I'm excited to talk about the repellents today. It's interesting having a company

that specializes in water filtration and insect repellent, both very niche technologies, but they

overlap in the protecting people's fear. So that's my fun connection.

And we've never talked about, well, we touched on it the first time you were on the podcast,

but we never really got into it in as much detail as we did water filters.

Even in the first episode, the focus was more on the water filters because that's,

let's face it, that's mostly what Sawyer's known for.

You bring Sawyer up and everybody thinks that has squeeze filters that are, you know, go out on the Appalachian Trail even for an overnight and you're going to find some people

out there through hikers who have Sawyer filters. My favorite thing is when I hop on with some

creative from the community and they know nothing about the insect repellent side of the brand.

And I get to tell them all new things that will solve a different problem that they have.

And they already trust us because they have the water filter that's worked.

And that's what I want to talk about here, is that I, again, I have personal experience with the

products. I know firsthand the quality of the water filters. It was with confidence because I bought

the, on the water filter before I bought any insect repellents. So it was with confidence I bought

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