I go by little Sims I'm always listening to music it doesn't matter if I'm in a car on a plane I need to feel it

Music gives me life the Bose QC ultra headphones have immersive audio that feels like sound all around.

I can hear every beat right now in front of me.

The noise cancelling allows me to focus so I can let my creativity shine.

Check it out at bows.

sound is power. Hello and we have had the most incredible year here at

Liz El well-being so I just like to take an extra moment before we get going to

thank you sincerely for all your support and your really kind comments.

You know, I especially appreciate the reviews that you leave for this podcast.

I absolutely do read every single one.

So if you've not left me a note on the review page where you

download I would love it if you could it's so great to connect with you now we are

recording this just before Christmas and so I thought it would be only right and proper

to introduce a few notes of seasonal beauty and well-being to enhance the airwaves.

And with that in mind, I am delighted to welcome an old friend of mine to my studios

someone who I have enjoyed many a botanical field trip with to all kinds of

far-flung parts of the world. She is Jennifer Hirsch,

ethnobotonous extraordinaire. Welcome, Jen. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here.

It is very nice to be here. Now, where are you from originally, just so that we get that right with your accent?

So originally I'm from Alexandria, Virginia, but my accent's been smooth by 22 years this year of living in the UK.

Well, nearly smooth because we have this joke, particularly at this time of year when we're

decorating the Christmas trees. Can you say what you hang on your trees ornaments?

...