Ferguson Revisited: Questioning the Legend
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4.5 • 6K Ratings
🗓️ 8 August 2019
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
There are two stories of what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, the day Michael Brown was shot and killed by police officer Darren Wilson: the story we heard immediately after, and the story we came to know months later.
In the second part of our three-part series, we ask: If we misremember Michael Brown’s death, does that change Ferguson’s legacy?
Guest: John McWhorter, writer, professor, and host of Lexicon Valley.
Listen to Part 1 of our series, “The Worst Night”
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| 0:00.0 | Previously on what next? |
| 0:08.1 | They had my children raise their hands like they were criminals as well. |
| 0:15.0 | Something happened the second night and I wish I could remember exactly what it was. |
| 0:21.5 | That was the worst night of all of them, right? |
| 0:23.8 | Mm-hmm. Sure was. |
| 0:26.1 | You never know what you're going to end up remembering in life, and I'll never forget her. |
| 0:33.4 | To really understand what happened in Ferguson in 2014, it helps to wind the tape back past the day that Michael Brown was killed. |
| 0:42.9 | In the summer of 2014, there were various episodes of black men being killed by the police under circumstances that were either clearly unjustified |
| 0:58.5 | or which were unjustified based on the way we first heard about them. |
| 1:03.5 | John McWhorter was watching all these incidents play out. |
| 1:06.6 | John's Black. |
| 1:07.5 | He's a writer, and he teaches at Columbia University. |
| 1:10.7 | Did it feel a particular way to sort of see these stories come out? Because the details were really... |
| 1:16.6 | The details were shocking. You had a man in a Walmart with a BB gun, gun down by police. |
| 1:23.6 | The police officers are here. They're on the scene. |
| 1:26.6 | All right. You've had any shots fired. You're starting here going. You're killed for, you know, holding up a toy. You had Eric Garner. Yeah, Eric Garner is, you know, basically pleading for his life. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. and these sorts of things are not happening once every five years. |
| 1:49.9 | It was almost numbing. |
| 1:52.4 | And what was interesting about it was that finally white America could see what ails a lot of black America. |
| 2:04.4 | I think a lot of very well-intentioned whites look at the race debate, and they think, |
| 2:10.9 | why are black people still so upset? What's the issue? And a great deal of the issue has been the cops. |
| 2:22.0 | In Ferguson, this realization was reinforced by how the police responded in the days after the shooting, |
| 2:29.7 | doubling down on strong-arm tactics, wearing body armor, using tear gas. |
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