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Welcome to Late Night Woman's Hour with me, Emma Barnett.

Each month we bring together a group of brilliant, intelligent, honest and funny women,

and we ask them to tell us what they've been thinking about,

what makes them happy, sad, furious or excited, or all of the above. And they bring us everything. Politics,

culture, relationships, love, hate, sport, the lot. Nothing, and I really mean nothing, is off

the table. So who have we got around the table? Comedian and podcaster Sophie Hagan,

vice executive editor Zing Singh,

and writer and journalist Yomi Adegoke.

Let's talk about jealousy.

I know you wanted to talk about this, Yomi.

Why is it in your mind?

Because I think one of the kind of byproducts of faux feminism,

mainstream feminism, has been this kind of weird scenario in which we kind of either absolve women from behaviours and emotions that everybody has and pretend that, you know,

if somebody does something that's really sort of nasty and bad and they're a woman, that for some

reason it's not, you know,

that it's kind of linked to something else. This is the patriarch's fault. You know, this isn't,

this isn't, like, it's like, there's this new kind of conversation that we're having that

almost suggests that women are just intrinsically good. And I think jealousy, because it really

truly is something that is weaponised, often wrongfully and often wrongfully

applied to women, you know, it was kind of that catfight narrative and we kind of have that,

you know, oh, girl on girl crime, these women are kind of jealous of each other and that's why

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