Femininity
Overthink
Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.
4.7 • 549 Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Tradwives, the divine feminine, and “that girl” on social media. In episode 141 of Overthink, Ellie and David discuss femininity. They look to Simone de Beauvoir’s famous claim that one is not born but rather becomes a woman, and discuss how the process of feminization is crucial to this becoming. They explore the association between femininity, mystery, and docility. Is the return to traditional gender roles an attempt to move away from capitalism? How do contemporary beauty standards shape women’s self-understanding. And is there such thing as “feminine writing”? In the Substack bonus segment, your hosts discuss 90s cultural feminism and spirituality, and question whether it is possible to find liberation through the divine feminine image.
Works Discussed:
Sandra Bartky, “ Foucault, Femininity, and the Modernization of Patriarchal Power”
Pierre Bourdieu, La domination masculine
Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex
Hélène Cixous, “The Laugh of the Medusa”
Manon Garcia, We Are Not Born Submissive
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| 0:00.0 | For nearly five years, Overthink has been an independent podcast without ads. |
| 0:05.1 | Since the beginning, David and I have been doing this work without compensation and on top of our full-time jobs as college professors. |
| 0:11.3 | But as we transition to weekly episodes and grow our team, this model is no longer sustainable. |
| 0:18.2 | So, we have decided to join a podcast network and incorporate ads. |
| 0:22.8 | This will not affect our content, but it will ensure that we can keep doing this work for |
| 0:27.3 | the foreseeable future in a way that's fair to our team and sustainable to us. |
| 0:31.8 | We are, as always, thankful for your support and for helping us make Overthink a reality. |
| 0:56.9 | Hello and welcome to Overthink. |
| 1:01.4 | The podcast where we put big ideas in dialogue with everyday life. |
| 1:02.7 | I'm Dr. Ellie Anderson. |
| 1:04.5 | And I'm Dr. David Peña Guzman. |
| 1:11.4 | We are witnessing a major resurgence of traditional femininity today, especially among young women. |
| 1:14.7 | And I'm not just talking about Sidney Sweeney and that whole discourse. |
| 1:21.0 | TikTok is abounding these days with material on the divine feminine. |
| 1:25.0 | Tradwife content is huge. |
| 1:37.5 | And Cottage Corps, which we talked about way back in 2020, Cottage Corps sort of back to the land aesthetics are really popular among young women, not just the aesthetics, but also, I think, increasingly, the practices. |
| 1:45.7 | While we're talking aesthetics, though, we have ballet corps. We have the mob wife aesthetic, and we have a ton of other micro trends that signal a new wave of interest in what has typically been understood as feminine. Yeah, and a lot of this |
| 1:50.9 | content and a lot of these trends are obviously nostalgic. They're backwards looking. I would say |
| 1:55.5 | they are regressive also. And many of them, I would even highlight the tradwives as a particular instantiation of this, |
| 2:04.3 | are a response to the progress that has been made in feminist circles in the last decades, right? |
| 2:11.4 | The wave of feminism that we saw, especially in connection to the Me Too movement. And it's understood |
| 2:16.2 | as a reaction to that. But I also would |
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