”Fellow Travelers”: A Showtime Series Explores a Forgotten Witch Hunt
The New Yorker Radio Hour
WNYC Studios and The New Yorker
4.2 • 6.2K Ratings
🗓️ 24 October 2023
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. |
| 0:09.9 | This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm Adam Howard, in today for David Remnick. |
| 0:16.6 | Fellow Travelers is a mini-series premiering on Showtime, set during a period that's not widely |
| 0:22.3 | remembered now. |
| 0:23.8 | We know the story of Joseph McCarthy going after supposed communists and the government, but |
| 0:28.5 | alongside the Red Scare was a witch hunt that cost thousands of gay people their jobs. |
| 0:33.1 | The president is going to issue an EO, whatever that is. |
| 0:36.6 | Executive order. Come here. And they're worried, Eisenhower is going to issue an E.O. Whatever that is. Executive order. Come here. |
| 0:39.3 | And they're worried Eisenhower is trying to undermine them with it. |
| 0:43.3 | By taking the lead on the anti-communist crusade? |
| 0:46.3 | I think so. Senator McCarthy wants to ignore it, but Roy thinks that they should... |
| 0:52.3 | Roy? On a first-time basis? |
| 0:55.0 | Mr. Cone thinks the smarter move is to make people think that they, McCarthy and Cohn, |
| 1:02.0 | are behind the order. |
| 1:03.0 | That they forced Eisenhower to do the right thing. |
| 1:07.0 | It was a grim situation. An investigation at the time claimed that, quote, |
| 1:14.0 | one homosexual can pollute an entire government office. |
| 1:18.1 | Fellow Travelers is based on a novel by Thomas Mallon. |
| 1:22.1 | It describes real events through two fictional characters working in the government. |
| 1:31.9 | They start a secret relationship while their lives in the Capitol brush up against the likes of McCarthy and the infamous Roy Cohn. Thomas Mallon spoke with David Remnick. |
| 1:39.4 | Tom, the relationship at the center of the book is a romance between two men, and this is Washington, |
| 1:46.0 | D.C. in the 50s. Talk a little bit about what it meant to be gay back then, and maybe particularly in D.C. |
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