Joy of Joy's in this week's feel good habits. I am joined by Selima Saxton and Jennifer Cox from The Women

on Mad podcast and I genuinely I mean what a reassuring wonderful energizing

conversation we had I hope you love these feel good habits.

Well, it is my absolute delight to be welcoming Salima Saxton and Jennifer Cox from Women Are Mad, the very wonderful podcast to the

Emma Gunn show to talk about their feel-good habits. Hello ladies how are you?

Hello. Hi. P thrilled to be here.

Thank you for inviting us.

I already feel as though this in itself, just this what people can't see, because obviously

they're listening, but this video call that we're having is already quite joyous or is already quite feel good in energy we seem to have

Ahh this we met each other haven't we with the right yeah we are most

standardized right. Yeah, we are most. So, okay, let's talk about feel good habits because I just think the context for this is that as one navigates

life, one has to get good at figuring out the things that you can do for yourself to lift you out of a funk, to really also kind of offer yourself from some perspective when life is not going the way

that you want it to, which let's face it, is going to happen.

So let's kick off with this idea of what you do, maybe your lightest feel good habit.

And what is the thing that you do, and let's start with you, Salima, what's the thing that you do to lift yourself up?

When you wake up and you're like, uh-oh, I'm in a bit of a funk.

So I'm really in a funny place at the moment with my mental health

in that I'm a grieving and a strange parent and I the where I am in my grief means that I'm feeling a lot of anxiety I think a lot of catastrophizing going on and I'm really kind of feeling a bit out of myself as Genwell knows.

So mornings for me are quite tricky actually. I would say every morning at the moment is a little bit tricky and I take a couple of hours to get into the workings of Salima and feeling okay again.

My main thing at the moment feeling okay,

My main thing at the moment is not a tip, Emma, I hate to say this, but it's to acknowledge that it is okay that I feel like this and that it will pass and that there is something in this uncomfortable place for me that I need to pay attention to and that I can't necessarily mute it with a bubble bath, some lavender oil or putting on my LED mask or any of the top tips that we all know about at the moment all my tactics aren't working for those first couple of hours.

Oh, I'm sorry, that sounds like, that sounds really tough.

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