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FEED DROP: Wherever It Leads... Milan: 'Festina Lente' Making Haste Slowly Through Milano With Tour de Force Marta Mondelli

True Sunlight

Luna Shark Productions, LLC

True Crime

4.432.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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We're taking a break from True Sunlight this week, but we hope you enjoy this episode of 'Wherever It Leads... Milan' Follow the show at staypes.ky/wherever Tourists sprint to Rome and Florence while one of Europe’s most alive cities hums quietly in the north — and that’s exactly what makes Milan extraordinary.  This week, writer, author, and Milanese insider Marta Mondelli pulls back the curtain on a city of hidden courtyards, wooden streetcars, world-class aperitivo, and jasmine-soaked springs.  She explains why cappuccino after 11am is a “crime”, why the Milanese party as hard as they work, and why spring open days unlock palaces most visitors never see.  Journalist Mandy Matney and producer David Moses share their own Milan memories — late-night dumplings in Chinatown, a train through the Alps, streets packed on a Tuesday like it was Saturday — while Marta weighs in on Lee Gilley’s asylum claim in nearby Turin and Italy’s growing conversation around feminicide.  Plus: Lake Como, Turin, and the art of spending your tourism money where it actually matters. Learn More about Marta Mondelli: @martamondelli Reset Stories Podcast @resetstoriespodcast Episode Resources: Festina Lente Milano — Marta's handcrafted candle shop in the Isola neighborhood 🕯️ Cenacolo Vinciano — Official tickets for Leonardo's Last Supper (book well in advance) 🖼️ Milan Duomo — Rooftop tickets and visitor info for the Cathedral 🏛️ Museo Egizio, Turin — The world's oldest Egyptian museum, second only to Cairo 🏺 Salone del Mobile — Milan Design Week, when the whole city becomes a gallery 🪑 Varenna, Lake Como — The mid-lake village the Milanese actually prefer ⛵ LUNASHARK Media — Support the investigative journalism behind Wherever It Leads 🦈 ⁠⁠Premium Members⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also get access to all new bonus episodes, video episodes, case files, live trial coverage and exclusive live experiences with our hosts. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more and join ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Luna Shark Merch With a Mission shop at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmerch.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support Our Show, Sponsors and Mission: https://lunasharkmedia.com/support/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hungry Root⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bombas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/whereveritleadspod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lunasharkmedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/moseswanders⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    *** Alert: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@lunasharkmedia.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** **Portions of this episode's production have been assisted by Ai models according to LUNASHARK's privacy and Ai Policies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:51.3

This is a city that has been knocked down and rebuilt more times than almost

0:56.8

any other in Europe. Our guest today, Marta Mandeli, will tell us later that practically

1:03.2

every Italian city has been destroyed and rebuilt. Milan just did it more often. Milan doesn't begin with Rome.

1:12.7

It begins with the Celts.

1:15.5

Around 590 BC, a Celtic people called the Inserbrus

1:20.0

founded a settlement here on the flat fertile plain of the Po Valley.

1:25.8

The name that came down to us, Mediolanum, is often read as the middle of the

1:32.8

plain. For more than three centuries, this was a Celtic town. Then, in 222 BC, Rome arrived.

1:45.2

The Roman Republic conquered Mediolanum and folded it into the Roman world, and the Romans did

1:52.7

what Romans do. They laid the city out in a tidy grid, parallel and perpendicular streets,

1:59.7

with gates facing the roads out of town.

2:03.1

Ride the metro to Milan's Duomo stop today, and you can look down through glass panels

2:09.6

at the actual Roman streets, still there beneath the modern city.

2:14.6

Mediolanum grew so important that under the late empire, it served for a time as an imperial

2:21.4

capital of the Roman West.

2:24.2

After the Roman Empire fell, Milan endured a wave of invaders.

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