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This is CBS Eye in the World. I'm John Bachelors.

Cybersecurity at the federal government level.

Fedgove today, Francis' rose show in these last days on Sunday.

His TV show is on Channel 7 in Washington on Sunday mornings.

His podcast is twice a week.

A conversation about security with the Air Force, with Sissa will explain

and with the Department of Homeland Security.

The language is overwhelming.

You're like sitting in a storm and being rained on.

So I want to welcome Francis and we'll start with some of the terms of art used in cybersecurity.

We're a long way from Francis and myself complaining about the government being hacked

back in the first decade of this century.

Francis, a very good even to your conversation with Lauren Knausenberger, the CIO of the Air Force.

Lauren recalled when she joined her press and occupation.

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