You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

With Gene and Chris, we have a fascinating episode of the parent cast for you today.

But before we get to our main guests, and I'll tell you who he is, he's Dr. Bruce McAbee, a scientist

who is involved in UFO research.

We're going to talk about the Gulf Briefs case, which he investigated thoroughly and

other stuff later.

We also have so many questions.

One of our listeners gave us a list of questions that's enough for a whole show. I couldn't believe it.

Let's go back in time to our guest two weeks ago. Now, two weeks ago, we had a lot of fun with J.C. Johnson.

This is why I called it a campfire episode.

You know, you're sitting around the campfire, people are telling you stories. But some people,

skeptical or not say, you know what, he's telling stories, where's his evidence for any of this stuff?

Now, you've known J.C. for year after year. Is he just telling stories, or is there a very

strong factual basis behind all this stuff? Well, you know, Gene, that's a really good question,

and, you know, I want to be careful with how I answer it. I have never gotten a sense from

J.C. that he's purposely making up stuff. I really think he believes all this stuff that he

investigates. I have always found it, how would I put this? Just highly unlikely that a single

person would have as many claimed experiences as he has had. Yet, I'm an example of somebody

who has had an incredible amount of unexplained sightings and experiences.

I do consider myself to be healthily skeptical.

I do question my own eyes, but I've had amazing experiences in my life, so I can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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