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limited for VHA multi-trip travel insurance. You've entered the Paracast with your host, Gene Steinberg and David Beetti.

So David, are you going to be attending any UFO conferences this year?

I'm kind of on the fence myself.

I haven't figured out yet whether there was one that's worthy of my presence, which might

sound like an egotomaniacal statement, but I've gone to a number of them.

And, you know, I'm looking for something new new thrills new

excitement you haven't been to something in years though right no I haven't been let's see

two years two three years ago I attended this conference in Las Vegas the crash

retrieval conference Ryan Wood right right was so good it motivated you to go back to more

yes I was so excited from that

experience that I said to myself, from here on until the end of time, I will continue to attend

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