Feb 27: Making peace with the wolves

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.8 • 162 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2018

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? Not Alexandra Pascalidou. The Greek-Swedish journalist did something that would scare many of us: after years of threats from neo-Nazis, she invited one of them for a cup of coffee. Alexandra gives us a masterclass in forgiveness — and stay tuned later in the week for a bonus episode featuring her full conversation with The Europeans. But first, actual wolves. After Belgium saw its first in a century, we're taking a look at how different countries across the continent are dealing with 20,000 of the proud predators — and our guest Max Rossberg of the European Wilderness Society argues we need a total rethink. Plus: the monster of Brussels, a monstrous week for Britain's Jeremy Corbyn, and some less monstrous news to cheer us up at the end. Thanks for listening, and don't forget to leave us a review on iTunes if you enjoyed the show! Twitter: @EuropeansPod europeanspodcast.com europeanspodcast@gmail.com

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0:00.0	Hello, listeners. Just a quick warning that this week's episode contains a discussion of some pretty horrible death threats and harassment.
0:27.1	Coming to you live from Amsterdam and Paris, this is The Europeans.
0:29.2	Except it's not live at all.
0:29.9	Hello, Dominic.
0:31.1	Hi, Katie.
0:32.6	Yeah, that's true. I shouldn't lie.
0:35.0	It's not live. It's Sunday here.
0:36.6	A very nice chilly Sunday.
0:39.3	I've had an ice-themed weekend. No way, I'm so jealous. What have you done?
0:41.3	I went ice skating on the top of Montparnasse Tower, so skyscraper in the middle of Paris,
0:46.3	really hideous skyscraper. But I heard that they put an ice rink at the top, so we went up there,
0:51.3	only to find that it's not actually ice. It's kind of like
0:54.5	plastic ice, which I didn't know existed. Oh yeah, I've seen one of that. It always looks really
0:59.6	disappointing. It was disappointing. And most people were on rollerblades, so it wasn't really
1:05.1	ice skating at all. But it was still like really, it was a really beautiful blue day.
1:09.5	But it also sounds like it would be really cold at the top of a skyscraper.
1:13.6	It was. It was very windy. I thought I might fall off. But that was cool. And then the
1:18.1	amazing thing was that at the side of the ice rink in inverted commas, there was a little mini
1:22.4	curling rink. I don't, I don't think you could call it a rink, a curling strip where you could throw
1:28.1	curding stones and watch them slide.
1:30.2	And it was really exciting.
1:31.5	And I think that our guest from last week, Finnish Olympian Una Koucester will be very proud
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