Featuring: The Trials of Frank Carson, Episode 7
Crimes of the Times
L.A. Times Studios
4.6 • 42.8K Ratings
🗓️ 29 July 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Christopher Gafford. |
| 0:02.4 | I'm at work putting together a new narrative series set to drop in the fall. |
| 0:06.8 | In the meantime, I wanted to reintroduce you to the Trials of Frank Carson, |
| 0:11.5 | the story of a criminal defense attorney who was put on trial for murder. |
| 0:16.4 | Thanks for listening, and please rate and subscribe. |
| 0:33.3 | When police came to talk to him, Jason Armstrong did not try to disguise his contempt for Cory Kaufman. |
| 0:38.3 | He's a thief, so I don't like thieves, you know what I mean? So I guarantee that nobody ever said nothing good about it. |
| 0:41.3 | You know, in the deal with this, nobody liked, Corey, to be honest with you. |
| 0:45.3 | Jason Armstrong had had some brushes with the law going back to the 90s. |
| 0:50.3 | He'd been arrested for domestic violence, though the charge was dropped. |
| 0:57.6 | On his police report, his occupation was listed as welder. |
| 1:05.2 | He was known to buy and resell cars and to host frequent parties at his home in Deneer across from a big dirt lot. |
| 1:11.6 | It was a few miles from where Corey Kaufman had disappeared in early 2012. Armstrong remembered Kaufman as, quote, |
| 1:14.6 | salty and rude, an inveterate thief and a tweaker, meaning a meth addict. |
| 1:20.6 | You're not going to find nobody on a padd of earth but likes him |
| 1:23.6 | because he's always jumping everybody's fences and still on their shit. |
| 1:25.6 | Right. Yeah. You know, he's up, he just always is up to no good. |
| 1:30.3 | Armstrong insisted that he had not killed him that at 47 years old, |
| 1:34.3 | he was too old even to fight. |
| 1:37.3 | Why would I, why would I kill that dude, Corp. |
| 1:41.3 | Okay, let me finish. |
| 1:43.3 | The only thing I do wrong smoking little weak, and I haven't killed nobody in all my life, and I'm old. Let me ask you a question. If you knew anything about it, would you tell us? You know, I probably would. Honestly, and truly, but I'm not. Jason Armstrong had not been arrested in connection with Kaufman's death, but nine others had, including Modesto defense attorney Frank |
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