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Dirty John

Featuring: The Trials of Frank Carson, Episode 2

Dirty John

L.A. Times Studios

True Crime, Los Angeles Times, Chris Goffard, Society & Culture, News, Christopher Goffard, La Times, Bravo, Los Angeles

4.642.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In this special-release episode, investigators confront a defiant Frank Carson about the disappearance of a scrap-metal thief with a reputation for making enemies.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Christopher Gafford. I'm at work putting together a new narrative series set to drop in the fall.

0:06.9

In the meantime, I wanted to reintroduce you to the Trials of Frank Carson, the story of a criminal defense attorney who was put on trial for murder.

0:16.4

Thanks for listening, and please rate and subscribe.

0:23.4

Kevin Pickett had been posting flyers around town

0:26.7

trying to locate his missing stepson, Corey Kaufman.

0:30.2

In his calendar day after day, he wrote, No Corey.

0:34.1

Now, weeks had gone by, and he was trying to explain to a Turlock detective

0:38.3

that his stepson had never before been gone this long.

0:42.2

Does he do any drugs?

0:43.5

Yeah.

0:44.2

Kaufman was a methamphetamine addict who roamed the town, scavenging for scrap metal.

0:49.1

He used to get some of the wire down up and down the road track.

0:53.7

It doesn't matter what Corey was doing, what Corey was about to do,

0:58.0

or what Corey did in the past. It doesn't matter.

1:00.0

Right. Okay. We want to find him.

1:02.0

Right. That's our goal here.

1:04.0

I'm one of the possibility he could be brain hurt or something

1:08.0

and don't know what the hell he's doing or where he's at.

1:11.3

Okay.

1:17.9

Corey Kaufman was a tenacious thief in his hometown here in California's Central Valley.

1:19.9

Thieves made enemies.

1:23.5

More than one had expressed a desire to do him harm.

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