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Dirty John

Featuring: The Trials of Frank Carson, Bonus Episode 2

Dirty John

L.A. Times Studios

True Crime, Los Angeles Times, Chris Goffard, Society & Culture, News, Christopher Goffard, La Times, Bravo, Los Angeles

4.642.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In this special-released bonus episode, our host Christopher Goffard is joined by his editor, Steve Clow, to talk about how authorities linked the disappearance of Korey Kauffman to Frank Carson.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Christopher Gafford.

0:02.4

I'm at work putting together a new narrative series set to drop in the fall.

0:06.8

In the meantime, I wanted to reintroduce you to the Trials of Frank Carson,

0:11.5

the story of a criminal defense attorney who was put on trial for murder.

0:16.4

Thanks for listening, and please rate and subscribe.

0:25.1

Music Thanks for listening, and please rate and subscribe. This is Christopher Gaffer, the writer and host of The Trials of Frank Carson.

0:29.5

I'm here with Los Angeles Times Deputy Metro editor Steve Clow,

0:33.7

and we're going to talk about episode two of our podcast. Welcome, Steve.

0:38.2

Thank you, Chris. Episode two, a disappearance. We learned more about what happened to Cory

0:44.1

Kaufman and how the authorities came to begin to probe deeply into who might have been

0:52.2

attached to his disappearance. Yeah, here is how Chief Assistant District Attorney Marlisa Ferreira, who would prosecute the case,

0:59.8

described Corey Kaufman to me.

1:01.8

So this wasn't a kid who had been a tweaker all his life.

1:05.0

This was a really good kid that all of his teachers said nice things about.

1:09.4

If you went and you got Turlock teachers to talk

1:12.1

about who he was or people that knew him as a child or as a teenager, they all say he was the nicest

1:17.4

kid in the world, he'd give you the shirt off his back. At this point in the story, he's still a

1:21.7

missing person, though by the end of the episode, they will have found his bones. And in this

1:27.1

episode, we hear from Kevin Pickett,

1:29.3

who's Cori Kaufman's stepdad, and he's struggling to figure out when exactly his stepson

1:35.4

disappeared. Pickett would have trouble keeping his date straight to the great frustration of the

1:42.1

investigators. He produced a receipt from Modesto Junk Company on 9th Street.

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