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🗓️ 27 November 2025
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Because Thanksgiving is basically Ruth Reichl season (the holy trinity of food, family, and feelings) we’re serving you a special episode of Julia Louis-Dreyfus' lovely conversation with her from Season 1 of Wiser Than Me.
On this episode of Wiser Than Me, Julia gets enlightened by 77-year-old food writer, magazine editor, and author Ruth Reichl. From her infamous New York Times review of Le Cirque to greenlighting a controversial David Foster Wallace article in Gourmet, Ruth is as gutsy as they come. Ruth talks to Julia about living with a mom who has bipolar disorder, processing grief through food, and why you should always do things that scare you. Plus, Julia asks her mom Judith for a recommendation on what to cook when Ruth accepts an invitation for dinner.
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| 0:00.0 | Lemonada. |
| 0:06.4 | Hey everyone, Julia here. Since it's Thanksgiving, I thought it would be the perfect time to revisit one of my favorite conversations from season one with the amazing Ruth Reichel. She's a food writer, magazine editor, author, and an all-around culinary icon. |
| 0:23.2 | Ruth and I have a warm and funny conversation about the way food shows up in moments of joy and grief, |
| 0:29.1 | and how doing things that scare you can sometimes lead to the most meaningful parts of life. |
| 0:34.6 | And as a special treat, we're sharing a bonus clip at the end of this episode, |
| 0:38.4 | something that only Lemonada premium listeners have heard before. Whether you're cooking, |
| 0:43.3 | traveling, or just taking a break today, I hope this feels like sitting down at a really |
| 0:47.3 | great table. Thanks for being here, and we'll be back next week with a brand new episode. |
| 0:52.6 | When I was about 28, I got pregnant for the first time, |
| 0:55.9 | and I was crazy happy. I got pregnant easily. I felt very fertile, very womanly. And then, |
| 1:05.1 | quite late in the pregnancy, my husband, Brad, and I discovered that this little fetus was not going to live. |
| 1:13.9 | So that was emotionally devastating, as you can imagine, but it got worse because I developed an |
| 1:21.0 | infection that landed me in the hospital. And I mean, this whole thing was just a complete nightmare. |
| 1:29.5 | Of course, my mom flew out to be with me. |
| 1:31.9 | And before she left, she told her best friend Ellie that she was coming out to be with me. |
| 1:36.7 | And naturally, the first thing that Ellie said to her was, so what are you going to cook? |
| 1:48.5 | After a couple of days, I finally got out of the hospital and I came home to recuperate, |
| 1:52.3 | but I wasn't allowed to get up out of bed yet. I was, as they say, bedridden. |
| 1:55.6 | But my mom cooked. |
| 1:57.5 | She made this incredible, cozy chili in a cast iron skillet with cornbread on top in the pan. |
| 2:07.7 | And she and my husband Brad set up a little card table at the foot of the bed and the smell |
| 2:13.6 | of that cornbread and the chili was so wonderful. It just filled the room and the whole house |
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