Hi everybody, welcome.

If you follow me on social media, you probably know that I'm a little bit of an FDR, not

I quote him a lot on Twitter and so forth.

I've been reading biographies about him, I've always been fascinated not only by him but

by his wife Eleanor.

So I'm very excited today to have an opportunity to speak to a great scholar, a real expert

on Franklin Roosevelt and on his presidency.

Harvey Kay, his professor emeritus of democracy and justice at the University of Wisconsin

at Green Bay.

He is a labor unionist and historical and political commentator and a frequent guest

on progressive shows in every medium.

He's authored and edited 18 books, including Thomas Payne and the Promise of America.

I hope to have him come back another time and talk about Thomas Payne and the promise

of America, the fight for the four freedoms, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom

from want and freedom from fear.

Those were the four freedoms that FDR talked about.

Take all hold of our history, that's the subtitle for the fight for four freedoms and FDR

on democracy, this book right here.

Let's get right to it.

What an honor, me professor, Harvey Kay.

Harvey Kay, thank you, thank you so much for being with me.

I'm really excited about this conversation.

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