Fawzia Koofi: Do Afghans still have hope?
The Interview
BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 7 June 2022
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Stephen Sackur speaks to Fawzia Koofi, one of Afghanistan’s most prominent women politicians, who has been in exile since the Taliban returned to power last year. Faced with economic collapse and political repression, can Afghans see any glimmer of light in the darkness?
(Photo: Fawzia Koofi in the Hardtalk studio)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sackett. My guest today has a remarkable life story which does much to encapsulate the tragedy of Afghanistan's recent history, a story of suffering, courage, thwarted ambition and broken dreams. |
| 0:18.6 | Fausia Kufi was the unwanted sixth child of an uneducated mother and a local |
| 0:24.2 | politician father. As a newborn, she nearly died of neglect. Somehow, she survived and then thrived at |
| 0:31.3 | school. She had a dream of becoming a doctor till the Taliban took over Afghanistan in the 1990s and put new restrictions on women and |
| 0:39.9 | girls. She defied the mullahs, she got a degree, worked on child protection for the UN, |
| 0:45.7 | and then entered Afghan politics, becoming deputy speaker of the Afghan parliament and a powerful |
| 0:52.2 | voice campaigning for women's rights and greater democratization. |
| 0:57.2 | She survived attempts on her life and even toyed with a run for president before, in 2020, |
| 1:04.2 | joining the Afghan government's negotiating team searching for a political deal with the Taliban. |
| 1:10.7 | That, of course, was superseded by the pullout of the US-led NATO force in Afghanistan |
| 1:15.4 | and the Taliban's toppling of Ashrafgani's government in Kabul. |
| 1:20.3 | For the past nine months, she's been in exile, |
| 1:22.6 | watching the Taliban reassert its repressive religious rule |
| 1:27.1 | while her country slides towards economic and |
| 1:30.0 | humanitarian catastrophe. Is there any glimmer of light in Afghanistan's darkness? |
| 1:36.9 | Well, Fausia Kufi joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you. It's good to be with you. |
| 1:43.0 | Well, it's great to have you in this studio. |
| 1:45.1 | I'm sure you wish you were speaking to me from Kabul, from Afghanistan, but you have been in exile |
| 1:50.8 | since the Taliban returned to power. How difficult for you is that separation from your country? |
| 1:59.3 | Extremely difficult. I never actually wished. I never hope to leave |
| 2:03.2 | the country that gave me the identity, a country that I did not only invest my time, but I invested |
| 2:08.5 | my blood to make it a better country for everyone. It has been a very difficult decision for me to |
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