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Plain English with Derek Thompson

Fatherhood and What Americans Get Wrong About Major Life Changes

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Derek is back, and ... he's a new dad! After several weeks of parental leave, he talks about what's surprised him about new fatherhood. Brad Stulberg, the health and science writer, returns to the show to discuss the psychology of major life transitions, why westerners—and, in particular, Americans—are so bad at dealing with challenges to their identity, and his new book, 'Master of Change.' If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Brad Stulberg Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Bill Simmons. Did you know I've had my podcast for 15 years? Do you know that it is

0:04.5

the most downloaded sports podcast of all time? Did you know I have guests from the sports world,

0:10.1

from the culture world, people who work for the ringer, people outside the ringer, celebrities,

0:15.6

experts? You name it. It's on my podcast three times a week, late Sunday night, late Tuesday night,

0:22.0

late Thursday night. The Bill Simmons podcast, check it out on Spotify.

0:27.0

One of my favorite writers is Martin Amos, and he once said that life is full of ordinary

0:34.5

miracles and ordinary disasters. In the ordinary miracle, birth, two people into a room,

0:42.1

and three come out. And in the ordinary disaster, one person enters a room and none come out.

0:48.2

This show has been dark for the last few weeks because an ordinary miracle in my life came

0:56.4

several weeks ahead of schedule before I had time to fully prepare for it either psychologically

1:01.2

or logistically in terms of prepping future podcasts. My wife gave birth to our daughter,

1:08.4

the first week of August. My daughter turns four weeks old the day I'm writing this.

1:13.2

And I remember it when people asked me in the weeks before my daughter's birth what I imagined

1:18.6

fatherhood would be like. I told them to a person, honestly, I am trying not to imagine it. That's

1:24.4

what I said. I'm trying not to imagine it. I said, I'm trying not to attach any particular

1:28.0

prediction, expectation to an experience that I frankly had trouble envisioning. Plus, I

1:35.0

received so much advice and so many tips and hacks, so many habits and strategies and purchasing

1:40.1

recommendations, so many words of wisdom and words of warning from friends and family

1:45.2

that I decided to go into the experience as blank as in as tabloirasa as possible be prepared

1:51.5

for anything and everything. I don't know if that sort of zen approach to imminent fatherhood

1:57.0

has actually worked out. I think you might need to ask my wife or my best friends.

2:02.4

But I can definitely attest that fatherhood has been everything and nothing I expected.

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