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Goldman Sachs Exchanges

"Fat and Flat" and the Market Path from Here

Goldman Sachs Exchanges

Goldman Sachs

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🗓️ 10 March 2016

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Peter Oppenheimer, Goldman Sachs Research's chief equity strategist and head of European Macro Research, weighs in on the recent rally in equity markets, the "third wave" of the financial crisis, the likelihood of a global recession, and more. This podcast was recorded on March 9, 2016. All price references and market forecasts correspond to the date of this recording. This podcast should not be copied, distributed, published or reproduced, in whole or in part. The information contained in this podcast does not constitute research or a recommendation from any Goldman Sachs entity to the listener. Neither Goldman Sachs nor any of its affiliates makes any representation or warranty, as to the accuracy or completeness of the statements or any information contained in this podcast and any liability therefor (including in respect of direct, indirect or consequential loss or damage) is expressly disclaimed. The views expressed in this podcast are not necessarily those of Goldman Sachs, and Goldman Sachs is not providing any financial, economic, legal, accounting or tax advice or recommendations in this podcast. In addition, the receipt of this podcast by any listener is not to be taken as constituting the giving of investment advice by Goldman Sachs to that listener, nor to constitute such person a client of any Goldman Sachs entity. Copyright 2016 Goldman Sachs. All rights reserved.

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0:00.0

This is exchanges at Goldman Sachs where people from our firm share their insights on developments

0:13.2

currently shaping markets, industries, and the global economy.

0:16.4

I'm Jake Seawert, Global Head of Corporate Communications here at the firm.

0:20.1

Asset prices around the world have gotten off to a volatile start this year as investors raise concerns over the efficacy of policy maneuvers, particularly at the central bank level, and weakening emerging markets.

0:31.0

To discuss these trends, I'm joined today by Peter

0:33.9

Oppenheimer, the chief global equity strategist and head of European macro

0:38.1

research for Goldman Sachs. Peter, welcome to the program. Thank you Jake. So we've started off the year seeing partial rebound from the steep declines that in January and

0:49.6

February.

0:50.6

Do you see this as a sign of real stabilization or just a temporary law on an ongoing

0:54.6

period of volatility? I think on balance the latter, you know when we did our

0:59.7

outlook pieces for this year we described for equities the environment as fat and

1:04.8

flat a fat or wide volatile trading range with relatively flat returns and the

1:11.3

two main reasons for this were firstly that after several years of

1:15.5

QE in response to the financial crisis most equity markets had seen a major re-rating. In other words, their PE ratios had risen to quite high levels by historic

1:26.4

standards. They weren't particularly cheap. And secondly, the outlook for profit growth was moderating around the world.

1:34.3

Margins had hit a peak in the US.

1:36.6

Revenue growth was slowing alongside lower nominal economic growth

1:40.4

and lower inflation.

1:41.8

So the combination led us to believe that it's quite difficult to get broad

1:46.3

equity market rises in a significant way, contrary to the situation we've seen in recent years. And as we moved into the beginning of this year,

1:55.5

because of the intense focus on falling commodity prices, the fears about the

2:00.4

impacts of rising US interest rates, and also the focus on a China slowdown,

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