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slash UK slash AI for people. Hi, I'm Ravi Agrual, Foreign Policies Editor-in-Chief. This is FP Live.

Welcome to the show. Two of the themes that often come up on this program are the decline

of U.S. power and the rise of illiberal democracies around the world. These are not new concepts,

of course, but the person who can lay claim to making

them household ideas is Farid Zakaria. He's the host of CNN's Sunday World Affairs show and a

Washington Post columnist. But perhaps most importantly for this discussion, he wrote two books in the 1990s and 2000s that popularized

the ideas I referenced, the post-American world and the future of freedom. And for the impact

that those two books have had, this magazine in 2019 named Fareed Zakaria one of the 10

top thinkers of the last decade. Now, you can agree or disagree

with a lot of what Farid writes and says, but he is unfailingly thought-provoking. And so it is with his

new book, Age of Revolutions, Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present. This is a really ambitious book. And what he's

trying to do here is to dive into history to understand what rapid change does to societies,

how that often leads to progress, but also friction, a backlash. The book is particularly

important today because in many ways we live in revolutionary

times, sort of a global revolution in that everyone the world over has a supercomputer in their

hands and everyone is grappling with the same forces of not just immense technological progress

but also rapid globalization, modernization,

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