Hi Paul. Hi Ardly. How are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm so good. It's so great to have you on Small Town Dicks. Oh I am so happy to be here. So we want to know how did we persuade you to join us here on Small Town Dicks. Oh it was it was a lot of arm twisting. Not the truth.

Well what has always impressed me about Small Town Dicks is the professionalism. First you have your authenticity. You know Dan and Dave, myself we come out of real crime. We've had real experiences. And so the audience, the listeners are getting from Small Town Dicks. What actually happens out there. Not something that's been glamorized. But also you guys don't exploit the cases. You're empathetic to the victims. And this is what I'm all about. And I know that people who know me from

other projects, they will truly see that when they start listening to Small Town Dicks. That's an incredible endorsement. Dan and Dave tell the fine people about some Patreon. Where Paul Holes also joins us on quite a few nuggety nuggets. For just five bucks a month you'll have access to an assortment of bonus episodes, outtakes, listener questions, special series.

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They go into the residence when they enter they see Nancy lying on the ground. She is on her back in a pool of her own blood. She is a huge fan of the city.

She is a blood. She is naked. Her underwear is pulled down to one ankle. And she has been disemboweled.

When a serious crime is committed in a small town a handful of detectives are charged with solving the case. I'm yardly and I'm fascinated by these stories.

So I invited my friends detectives Dan and Dave to help me gather the best true crime cases from around the country and have the men and women who investigated them tell us how it happened.

I'm Dan and I'm Dave, where identical twins from Small Town USA. Dave investigated sex crimes and crimes against children. He's now a patrol sergeant at his police department.

Dan investigated violent crimes. He's now retired. Together we have more than two decades experience and have worked hundreds of cases.

We've altered names, places, relationships, and certain details in these cases to maintain the privacy of the victims and their families.

So we ask you to join us in protecting their true identities as well as the locations of these crimes out of respect for everyone involved. Thank you.

Today on Small Town Dicks we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dan. Hello. Hello. So good to see you. Great to be here. Thanks for coming. And we have Detective Dave.

Armden Reddy. Such an asshole. Small Town. Dave is not making a joke referencing a firearm. He means that the recording device we used to record the audio on for Small Town Dicks literally says his microphone is armed, which means it's ready.

Anywho, moving along Small Town Fam, we are so pleased to welcome a new guest to the podcast Detective Ken. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you so much for being here. Glad to be here. Before we go on, I feel like I should tell the listeners that my cat zipper is all over Ken right now.

She is sitting between him and the microphone insisting that he pet her. You are a very good sport, Ken. So Small Town Fam, that dull roaring the background is her purring. Anyway, before we get started on the case, you brought us today. Can tell us a little bit about your jurisdiction. Just sort of give us the lay of the land.

My jurisdiction is located in the suburbs of major metropolitan area. In fact, we're sandwiched in between several major cities. We have approximately 89 square miles that are divided up into three different beats. Within those beats are midnight officers. We have three officers per beat. So if you break up the city geographically, there's about three officers for 30 square miles.

So we operate very much like a sheriff's office in that respect. That's crazy. Yeah.

Dan and Dave, I would say when you call for cover, one minute can feel like a lifetime. And that is a lot of distance to cover if you are calling for cover.

When you're waiting for cover, it seems like forever. And you can hear it coming. But it's not there yet. It's not there yet. And a lot of things can happen in five seconds.

Yeah. Right. So can please tell us how this case came to you.

So this case was my second case being involved with the Cremskins persons unit in her department. This case start off as a very routine call for service.

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