I want to play, you know, Steve Gonzalez, I can't say like he's my hero, but I admire the man.

I think he's been really a stand-up guy during this, and he's, of course, the dad of K. Lee Gonzalez.

And he's been somewhat the most vocal of the parents.

He doesn't speak for the other parents.

He speaks for himself and his family.

But he's been the most vocal.

And I'm going to play a little bit of this from News Nation to get a sort of a view of how Steve Gonzalez feels about what's going on.

Well, it doesn't look like the crime scene photos are in this current batch of documents,

do you plan to fight the release if and when that time comes?

Yeah, I believe all the families have let that be known to the prosecuting team that that's

not anything that we were interested in. And we've been

worried that we would see those leaked at any time when you had like certain stories and certain

things been late since the very beginning. We were afraid that we'd wake up one morning and that

may be on, you know, might be on TV. Yes, Steve, I don't, I know there are people out there who want full transparency.

They want to get every single aspect of this case.

I do not see the value of that.

I think that this is painful.

It's gratuitous.

It's disgusting.

But for the people out there who want full transparency about this and say, we, we, I don't even know what the argument would be to

see that real what would be your response to them be uh you don't get that you those are our

children and we're not we're not settling for that type of thing and I think it encourages

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