Welcome to another look into the life and message of Elizabeth Aliens.

She called us to live to a higher standard and not be satisfied with just shallow religion.

When we could have a relationship with God and give Him our best.

Today our podcast is entitled Falling and Rising.

This series continues in the coming weeks as we hear from family, friends and others

who are influenced by Elizabeth Aliens' life and message.

And we continue right now our extended series into Jim Aliens' Operation Alka and other

events during Elizabeth's time in Ecuador.

Our beloved story of Jim and Elizabeth will hear about falling in love, about spiritual

ups and downs.

And we have a couple guests, once again today, to share some insights into what Elizabeth

Aliens was like.

Kathy Rig, president of the Elizabeth Aliens Foundation, has been a friend and supporter

of Lars and Elizabeth for years.

She'll share insights on Elizabeth's latter years about her influence with strangers

and how one special word about the death of Jim made an impact on Kathy.

Also Bob Schuster will be joining us as an Archiveist at the Wheaton College Billy

Graham Center Archives, and he's been doing that for decades, helping countless researchers

learn from the past to understand the present.

He'll be talking about Elizabeth and the topic of suffering.

Right now we hear about one of Elizabeth's first experiences with Jim, it was watching

him wrestle.

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