Falklands, Robin Day and Peppa Pig
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.1 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
As defence secretary when the Falklands were invaded, John Nott had to check the globe in his office and was horrified to see how far away the islands were.
He talks to Matt about the conflict that defined Margaret Thatcher's legacy, and why he walked out of a TV interview when Robin Day called him a 'here-today, gone-tomorrow politician'. He also reveals his connection to the Peppa Pig song.
PLUS: Columnists India Knight and James Marriott discuss whether they feel reassured when Rishi Sunak says "I'm totally, 100% on it", and why James is worried about righteous anger from centrist populists.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, this is the Red Box podcast. I'm Matt Chollie, bringing the best of my times |
| 0:07.0 | video show. You can listen live Monday to Friday, 10 to 1 on your DAB radio, on your smart |
| 0:12.1 | speaker or download the times radio app. Coming up on today's episode, really fascinating |
| 0:16.4 | chat with John Not. He was Margaret Thatcher's defence secretary during the Falklands. He tried |
| 0:22.0 | to resign and she wouldn't let him. He also stormed out of a famous TV interview with |
| 0:27.1 | Robin Day after he said that he was a here-to-day gone-to-morrow politician. That's a good |
| 0:32.6 | chat with him coming up and just moment. But first, as we always do, on a Friday, let's |
| 0:36.2 | take a look at what we learned this week. |
| 0:39.9 | First of all, we learned that it's all okay. Firstly, are you okay? I'm here to tell you |
| 0:45.3 | that I am totally 100% on it and it is going to be okay. We learned it just seven tour |
| 0:52.5 | MPs think, b****** John didn't lie, because this is a b****** John Free Zone. We learned from |
| 0:58.9 | a question from Jess Phillips, the tour MP Leah Nietzsche's very trusting of you know who. |
| 1:02.9 | Did you think that there's any chance that Boris Johnson could also have lied to her? |
| 1:06.3 | Well, I thank the other bull lady. Actually, no, I don't believe he did. Although she then |
| 1:11.6 | didn't invoke the game through a part anyway. We learned why Ian Duncan Smith sacked Gary |
| 1:15.4 | Streeter. When the in rang round, the shadow cabinet at the time said, we support me. I |
| 1:20.2 | made the probably the rookie error, Matt, of saying to him, no, Ian, I want to support |
| 1:24.6 | you because I believe you're unelectable. We learned that Ed Davies big clock. |
| 1:38.6 | He's clocking up a Lib Dem spin doctor's front room. We learned that Joe Biden missed the |
| 1:43.0 | news in September. All right. God save the Queen, man. We learned that the last time that |
| 1:49.1 | Kirsta was in a helicopter. I think when I was doing a case somewhere out in the |
| 1:53.4 | Caribbean, I'd say 15 years. Well, I was doing a legal case out there. It's actually |
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