Welcome to the Libertarian Podcast from the Hoover Institution.

Today we're discussing the most recent indictment of Donald Trump, covering his actions

leading up to January 6th and his attempt to retain the presidency.

I'm your host Tom Church and as always I'm joined by the

Libertarian Professor Richard Epstein. Richard is the Peter and Pearson Bedford Senior Fellow here at the

Hoover Institution.

He is the Lawrence A Tish Professor of Law at NYU,

and is a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago.

And Richard, at this point, you are also an expert at commenting on

former President Trump's indictment cases

because we have the third indictment to talk about.

I've had a lot of practice on all of this and I think what you could say it looks like a geometric

progression. The first of these indictments by Bragg is better forgotten and removed. It was a

reach and an extravagance and foolishness. The second indictment on

instruction with respect to the papers is in fact probably a valid cause of

action and the defense that you're going to hate as well. He may have showed

doctrines, documents to somebody but they didn't read them and he never got anything

get out of the room and those are mitigation defenses but they're not absolute defenses.

There's the comparison to Hillary Clinton.

Stuff was probably stolen lifetime because she had this makeshift servant

and was given a lot of very kindly way which should not have happened.

But my guess is a conviction on that count is probably justified having looked at the evidence.

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