Welcome to Restore the Glory Podcast.

My name is Jake Kim.

And I'm Bob Schutz.

We're two Catholic therapists sharing what we've learned personally and professionally to help you on the journey of restoration.

Bob, good to be with you once again. We are right in the midst of this series on fear. I don't

know about you but I'd have to say in my life fear is probably one of the biggest

dynamics that I'm addressing almost all the time with all my stuff

that I've learned about people and myself I can root so much back to fear about why I do

stuff and I think it's just such a common experience for folks.

So I'm just glad we're doing this episode to hopefully bless people.

Yeah, I agree.

I think fear is so critical and it's really heightened right now and what we're going through as a culture but this just gives us an opportunity to look at what's underneath the surface that's always there and

This just bringing it out.

So I have this analogy.

You and I are always working.

We always seem to use agricultural analogies.

I think that's because the maestro that we follow, he loved to use those agricultural analogies to Jesus.

So I just learned this about grass

because we're planting grass around our house right now

is that whatever you see above the surface is the same

depth that you see below the surface.

And so this guy has, he's a horticulturist, and he was telling us about how to grow grass.

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