The devil's been playing chess way up here.

He's been doing all the levels of the media, social media, TV, all of politics.

We've been down here waiting for the rapture.

And it's not working.

We have to take hold up here, and we need to get a foothold up there.

And I think we finally are.

I really think people are waking up. There's a lot of brave soldiers out there.

Lots of people are really listening to you,

and they are implementing what you're doing, by the way.

They are being foot soldiers out there, and they are getting criticized.

Well, welcome back to culture and Christianity.

Our guest today's Gigi Butler.

She's the founder of Gigi's cupcakes.

If you have missed out on that opportunity, you have missed out.

I have a little sample here and I will not share. And you don't have

smell of vision so you can't appreciate it fully. But it's not a cupcake of a conversation,

pun intended. It's a story really of perseverance and diligence of facing fear and overcoming it,

of not allowing disappointment to shape your life.

And all of that wrapped around a person with a genuine faith.

It really, it's an encouraging conversation.

I think it'll help you build the bridge to the best things in front of you

and perhaps help fuel the determination not to give in to the temptation to quit.

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