It's the intersection of faith and culture. Thanks for joining us today on the Wal-Bolders show. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. Later in the program, Ryan Walters will be with us from, I started to say the great state of Oklahoma, but I just know David's going to say North Texas. So I'm just going to say it from the great state of North Texas. Yes.

No, it's going to be good to have Ryan on, guys.

Yeah, Ryan's a great leader.

And what he's done in Oklahoma has really set a benchmark for other people to come to.

He's had so much courage and conviction.

And he is a conservative, well, he's a Christian,

constitutional and conservative in that order, and he takes on his party when he needs to,

and he's been a really strong leader up there. Well, when you ruffle feathers for promoting

the Bible, the number one literature book of all time, the most influential book in world history, but also certainly

in American history, when you are promoting something like that and you're causing both sides

to get upset with you, you're probably doing something right. And certainly he has. It's been,

we've talked about it many times on and off air on the program.

We've had Ryan, I believe, on the program before.

We've met with him many times.

He is somebody we've been very impressed with.

His courage, his drive, his motivation, and really his wisdom and a lot of what he has done.

He has promoted what he believes to be right.

And he was willing, as dad, as you mentioned,

even to take on his own party at times when there were people that were not supportive of what to him made a lot of sense.

And by the way, what made a lot of sense to us too in the way he was doing it.

So he's somebody that has been a great leader in Oklahoma and is actually working to change a lot of the educational

structure in Oklahoma, which Oklahoma is no exception to the rest of the nation. The whole

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