Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's the Wall Builders Show, and what a great week to be listening to the Wall Builders Show. Independence Day coming up in just a few days, and then a whole year of celebrating the 250th, 250 years under the Declaration of Independence. Thanks for joining

us today. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton later in the program, Robert Morgan.

We're going to be talking about the book, 100 Bible Verses that Made America Defining Moments

that Shaped Our Enduring Foundation of Faith. David and Tim, there seems to be more of an appetite

for this conversation. I feel like

more than at any time since I've been doing this. I don't know if you guys would say the same thing, but man, it's just exciting to see so many people talking about the faith of the Founding Fathers. Yeah, the faith of the Founding Fathers is really, really strong. It's kind of amazing. I was at church this weekend, and it being the Sunday before the 4th of July, I just did only the

signers of the Declaration. It's kind of amazing. I was at church this weekend, and it being the Sunday before the 4th of July, I just did

only the signers of the declaration.

So all I did, I just covered it and said, hey, we're having here, and I went through so

many signers that people, they just don't know anything about, whether it's Samuel Huntington

or whether it's Thomas McKean or Francis Hopkinson or have many others, they can name

Jefferson and Adams maybe and Franklin and it kind of stops there. Tim's got a gift card he carries

with him asking high school and college kids, can you name five-siders a deck? What if you had

nine years you've had the same gift card? You't get anybody get five names yeah i mean the basic

question and actually i do think there was one kid at patriot academy one year that got it right

however however he heard me the year before ask the question it's cheating it's yeah specifically

memorize five signers of declaration to come back and do it i was like okay wait where's the gift

card to uh it's twenty dollar chick-fil-a gift card. $20 chick-fil- I want to play. Well, and so what I, that's why he memorized it. He said, next time I'm going to make sure I get this gift card. But I told him, that's an asterisk, right? Like that's Barry Bond's home run record on steroids. Like it's, I mean, you hit that many home runs. You just had a little help hitting those home runs.

So asterisk buy that. record on steroids like it's you you I mean you hit that many home runs you just had a little help

hitting those home runs so asterisk by that but yeah ultimately when when we talk with any American

I was gonna say younger generation but really it's anybody most Americans learn our history

in generalities we don't learn specific details. And so much of

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