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FAILURES OCTOBER 6: 2/4: The October 7 War: Israel's Battle for Security in Gaza by Seth J. Frantzman (Author), Mark Dubowitz (Foreword)

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🗓️ 1 February 2025

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FAILURES OCTOBER 6: 2/4: The October 7 War: Israel's Battle for Security in Gaza by  Seth J. Frantzman  (Author), Mark Dubowitz  (Foreword)

https://www.amazon.com/October-War-Israels-Battle-Security/dp/B0DBF4WJRF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

A harrowing account on the frontlines of the war between Israel and Hamas, The October 7 War tells the story of how Hamas surprised Israel with its deadly attack, killing more than 1,000 people and kidnapping more than 250. With unparalleled access to the Israeli soldiers and units that faced the Hamas onslaught and their epic battle to defeat the terror group in Gaza, this is the story of the men and women who faced one of the world’s worst terror attacks and brought justice to its victims. It is also the story of how Hamas—backed by anti-Western and anti-Semitic forces around the globe—masterminded its attack and aspired to fire the first shot in a war to upset the US-led world order. The war against the terrorist group will determine the future of the Middle East.

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchew with Seth Fransman. He is the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy.

0:10.1

Importantly, is the war correspondent for the Jerusalem Post and the author of the new book, October 7 War.

0:17.4

Intelligence failure. Reading through your details, Seth, I was reminded of all the lessons learned of

0:23.6

Pearl Harbor that were not learned of all the lessons learned from 9-11 that were not learned

0:28.5

as of yet there's been no inquiry into what went wrong and why and many of the same leaders on that day are still in place. Some have left

0:40.2

their jobs, but many are still there. Certainly the Prime Minister and the Minister of Defense,

0:46.0

Mr. Golan. But I don't want to go too fast on this. There were warning signs. You spoke to the

0:52.7

father of one woman now KIA in the observation unit, the 414th.

0:57.7

There were warnings along the fence.

1:00.8

The fence was built to keep the Palestinian Gaza and troublemakers in, not charging across the Nagev.

1:08.1

And these years in between, the takeover the Gaza by Hamas and the attack on October 7th.

1:16.5

Is there one explanation that you've, you know, writing your book, is there one explanation

1:22.0

that tracks you more than any other, knowing it's not definitive about why the IDF was not able to listen to the warning

1:30.1

signs that their own front line was giving them.

1:34.3

Yeah, I think it's just an example of a typical human failure of complacency, combined with

1:40.7

arrogance, combined with looking in the wrong direction and therefore having a feedback loop in which everything that you're told, you just say you just kind of dismiss it.

1:49.7

And so there was a lot of groupthink at the top there.

1:52.6

I mean, look, if you're in a room with 10 people and everyone thinks one thing, it's always worth to be the one that says, you know what, let's be a contrary and let's say it's not that.

2:01.0

And you can look at that always in history, whether it's stock worth to be the one that says, you know what, let's be a contrary and let's say it's not that. And you can look at that always in history, whether it's stock market crashes or anything else.

2:06.3

And you can say, it's always good to have one person, you know, say, you know what, what if this is not the case?

2:12.0

So the problem what happened prior to October 70s, that there was a huge amount of information coming

2:18.0

of Gaza, as you said, the women observers that are part of these observations are part of the

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