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Deadline: White House

“Factual discrepancies”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Versant, Ms Now, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on the multiplying questions around Donald Trump’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, Trump criticizing Jerome Powell during a bill signing, and the Senate confirmation of Emil Bove for a lifelong seat on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. Joined by: Julie K. Brown, Angelo Carusone, Ankush Khardori, Steve Liesman, Maria Aspan, Marc Elias, Mitch Landrieu, Kristy Greenberg and Associate Justice Allison Riggs.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. Happy Wednesday. It's 4 o'clock in the East. Every time Donald Trump

0:08.9

opens his mouth these days, the questions around his own relationship with Jeffrey Epstein

0:14.1

only seem to multiply. Today, supporters and critics alike, trying to make sense of his

0:20.1

bizarre new articulation about his

0:22.4

falling out with the dead child sex trafficker. Here's that moment from Donald Trump talking to reporters

0:28.4

yesterday aboard Air Force One. Yeah, he took people, and because he took people, I say,

0:34.5

don't do it anymore. You know, they work for me. And he took beyond that, he took some others.

0:41.2

And once he did that, that was the end to him.

0:44.0

I didn't like, where they steal people, I don't like it.

0:48.1

Now, as journalist Tara Palmeri pointed out on this program yesterday,

0:52.1

the idea that the falling out between Epstein and Trump

0:55.3

happened after Virginia, Jafre, or others were, quote, stolen by Epstein from Trump doesn't really

1:03.2

add up in terms of the publicly known timeline. Not only did Virginia Jafre say she was recruited

1:09.9

by Galane Maxwell in the year 2000,

1:12.8

three years before that now infamous birthday note from Donald Trump to Epstein.

1:18.3

That's according to reporting from the Wall Street Journal, which Trump denies.

1:22.2

The Washington Post reported back in 2019 that Epstein and Trump fall out over a dispute of a real estate, a Palm Beach

1:29.7

Mansion in the year 2004. What this leaves us with is an alarming new set of data points and

1:36.1

factual discrepancies. The bulwark tries to make sense of it, summing it up this way.

1:40.7

So Trump knew that Epstein and Maxwell had, quote, taken or quote, stolen,

1:46.8

Virginia, Giffray and some others from Marlago. And of course, Trump knew about Epstein's proclivities

1:53.9

for younger women at the time. Two years after Jafre was stolen from him, he infamously told New York

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