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Facing Spiritual Abuse (with Dan Koch)

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Good Faith

News, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

51.8K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

We examine the phenomena of spiritual abuse with the help of Dan Koch, researcher, therapist, and host of the podcast, You Have Permission. Both Curtis and Dan share how their own lives have been affected by spiritual abuse, and then together address questions such as, “Why can it be difficult to spot? What kind of impact does it leave? What makes spiritual abuse distinct from other kinds of abuse?” The conversation connects important theological insights - including the nature of institutional sin and redemption - with practical advice for victims, their loved ones, and current leaders of Christian organizations.

Dan Koch’s Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale Clinical Screener

Dan’s You Have Permission Podcast

Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse: Creating Healthy Christian Cultures by Dr. Lisa Oakley

Further resources on spiritual abuse from The Allender Center at the Seattle School

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Good Faith Podcast, I'm your host Curtis Chang.

0:20.8

The Good Faith Podcast is a production of redeeming babble.

0:24.2

And the Good Faith Podcast is where friends who follow Jesus help each other make sense

0:29.4

of the world.

0:31.0

Now one of the consistent themes of the Good Faith Podcast is that Christians make sense

0:35.7

of the world not just as individuals, but also through institutions.

0:41.5

And that's because we reflect the character of God not just as individuals, but also as

0:46.8

institutions.

0:47.8

That human institutions are just that, they're human.

0:50.7

And therefore they participate in the human call to reflect who God is in their own way.

0:56.7

It also means that human institutions participate in this grand biblical story of humanity, which

1:05.2

includes sin and the need for redemption.

1:09.0

So this is why there is such a thing as institutional sin.

1:12.8

In fact, if you go back to the archives of Good Faith, our very first episode was titled

1:18.0

Liberty University and the reality of institutional sin.

1:22.4

And it points to that fact that while all institutions, including secular institutions,

1:27.5

do have some role in reflecting who God is, Christian institutions, bear in a special

1:33.0

responsibility because they are in relationship with Christ in a conscious way.

1:37.6

We have a special responsibility to reflect who God is, which means we have to take really

1:44.3

seriously the nature of institutional sin.

1:47.8

And there's a particular kind of institutional sin that's been getting more and more recognition.

1:54.0

And that is the sin of spiritual abuse.

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