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🗓️ 28 July 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Facebook hired Frances Haugen to help it filter out violent rhetoric and abusive behavior. But she says the company ignored her team’s recommendations. So, in 2021, she leaked thousands of pages of internal documents to the media. Today, she says the dangers haven't gone away.
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0:00.0 | I'm T. Ciana Deering in from Magna Chakra party, and this is on point. Francis Hagen, what |
0:09.7 | was your first job at Facebook? What are the higher you to do? |
0:14.5 | Many people probably have heard of the Facebook third party fact checking program. It's where |
0:19.8 | they hire journalists to go and fact check extremely popular stories on Facebook. Most |
0:24.5 | people aren't aware that that program only covers a very, very limited corner of Facebook. |
0:29.7 | So it covers parts of America, like the most popular content in the United States, the |
0:34.3 | most popular content in Western Europe. But for majority of countries in the world, there |
0:38.5 | are no third party fact checkers. And even in major countries like India, you might only |
0:43.8 | have a couple hundred stories fact checked every month. |
0:47.4 | My team, I was recruited to Facebook to work on the problem of what do you do about misinformation |
0:52.4 | when you can't rely on third party fact checking. How do you change the system or do other |
0:58.2 | things beyond just taking down individual pieces of content? |
1:02.4 | And when did you realize that you weren't going to be able to do that job? You couldn't |
1:06.1 | succeed at the job for which you were hired? |
1:09.9 | So I think the question you're trying to ask is like, why did I decide to blow the whistle? |
1:13.6 | The moment I realized, no, I want to go back because in the memoir, there is a moment |
1:20.2 | earlier on where you're like, wait a minute. Oh yeah. Yeah. So let's start there. Sure. |
1:25.2 | So I realized probably within a couple of months that it was not going to be possible |
1:31.8 | for me to accomplish that objective because at Facebook, nothing was considered false |
1:38.2 | unless it was third party fact checked. And so we lacked, we are not well aligned with |
1:45.5 | how Facebook operated or defined success. |
1:47.9 | All right. So and I appreciate you letting me re-steer you back. |
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